Comments on: All I want for Seven is…

By: Cobra

Cobra — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:49:56 +0000

1. Giving the user a choice as to what gets installed and what doesn’t, will never happen.

2. I totally agree.

3. Security and Windows do not mix in the same sentence. OneCare is not that great anyway.

4. I don’t think anything except what’s absolutely needed for the OS itself should be included. I hate being stuck with what MSFT thinks is good for me.

5. I agree, but it likely would never happen as there’s too many variables that come into play when something goes wrong.

6. I can’t speak for wireless performance as I don’t use wireless, but a “gaming mode” would be nice. There was talk about having such a mode in Vista, but as with everything else, it too was scrapped. IMO, a compact and efficent “gaming mode” should be how the OS is installed initially and let everything else be installed if needed. That will never happen either. See #1.

Brandon compares editions like that because he finds no fault with MSFT. The guy argued before that it was OK that MSFT was a monopoly and all the things they’ve done over the years to intentionally screw the competition (AARD code in Win 3.1 for example, theft of code lawsuit against MSFT by Gary Kidall, which was won BTW). You’re not going to sway “his” way of thinking.

By: David Taraso

David Taraso — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:19:56 +0000

Brandon, I don’t see how you can compare editions like that.

Each version of Windows XP was “incremental” so-to-say. Home Edition included most of the features XP had to offer and was sufficient for home users, and Professional included everything from Home edition, as well as some more office/corporate oriented features, it did not have any features removed.

With Vista however, you have Home Basic which nearly offers less than XP in it self, you then have Home Premium which includes the necessities for Home users, but no professional features. And then Business edition includes those professional features, but LACKS the home features. You either have to chose between one or the other, or buy Ultimate edition at the cost of $500.

Media Center edition was available as OEM only, and was nothing more than XP Professional with Media Center added. And Tablet edition was once again Professional but with the tablet features added, and again was only available as OEM, pre-installed on Tablets.

You simply cannot compare editions like that. Basically, with Vista you have 4 editions to choose between in the store, and with XP, we only had 2 to choose between, and we knew if we got the higher version, that we were getting everything.

By: Brandon Paddock

Brandon Paddock — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:58:51 +0000

But Windows XP didn’t just have a Business and a “normal” edition.

It had:

Home Edition (far more useless than Vista’s Home Basic)
Professional Edition (same as Vista Business)
Media Center Edition (same as Vist Home Premium)
Table PC Edition (eliminated in Vista)
Starter Edition

Vista didn’t add any new Editions except for Ultimate, which offers a combination of components (domain supprt, RDP, and Media Center) that you *COULD NOT GET* on Windows XP. And it removed the superfluous Tablet PC Edition by integrating that functionality into the other editions.

So… I don’t really see what you’re complaining about.

By: Paul

Paul — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:25:04 +0000

I agree with everything David. I partially agree with the first point, but it would be good if it were like XP whereas there is just a Business edition and normal edition. I by far agree with the rest however.

By: Xepol

Xepol — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:30:39 +0000

It seems doubtful that Microsoft will get the concept of giving us what we actually want any time soon.

Sadly, their success is our failure. They are literally big enough to ignore their customers (see:vista) desires and requirements knowing they can ship anything and have it sell.

Maybe once they loose 30% of their market they might do a knee jerk half assed reaction, but don’t expect anything truely meaninful any time soon.

I would suggest that it is more likely that Apple will finally drop the restriction for running their OS on non-apple hardware long before MS really gets a clue about customer service. ( and I don’t see Apple figuring that bit out any time soon no matter how much sense it makes)

By: Lambie

Lambie — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:14:07 +0000

Impressive points there David, and I think I agree with all of them, having the ability to choose what features you want installed would be great - I also agree with Steven’s comment about scraping NTFS, bring on flash drives I say!

By: Eric

Eric — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:45:20 +0000

I think i read somewhere that everything is going to be linked with Windows Live

and…

That gaming thing is a great idea, i already have a gaming profile on my XP (nothing runs but steam and xfire). Any good gamer will know that they have to have a cable anyways…

By: Diamond

Diamond — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:57:50 +0000

I agree to all the points you mentioned! Absolutely interessting what you said. I really like the idea of a custom installation and only one version. The only thing I can’t tell anything about is the Wireless gaming, because I’m using a cable connection because Wireless kinda sucks here…because there is a conection breakdown every 2 minutes…

By: Matt Sharpe

Matt Sharpe — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:54:11 +0000

The reason Windows Live stuff is not included in Windows is so that the competition has a chance. If they bundled everything into Windows, nobody would see any reason to go install Yahoo! Messenger, for example. The Windows ‘N’ versions exist for the same reason - no Media Player bundled.

By: Sam Johnson

Sam Johnson — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:00:18 +0000

I agree on all of your points David except for number one (partially). I think that MS had it just right with XP but did take too much advantage of the system with Vista.

As far as 64-bit support goes, I think it should be the default install unless a user chooses not to or they don’t have a supported system (moi). I’ve noticed that there are actually quite a few systems on the shelves today that quietly have Vista 64-bit installed right in the factory.

The rest is right on the dot, although I think Adobe needs the hint on error messages also

Here’s hoping for Seven